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BlackDaemon82
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World Track Championship, Racewars S42: W07 Sat. 6th August Aug 5, 2022 8:20:13 GMT drrockso26 and juicy like this

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World Track Championship

RW Season 42: Qualifiers Week 07

Saturday 6th August 2022

7.30pm UK | 8.30pm CET | 2.30pm EDT | 11.30am PDT

Pre Lobby & Party Portal Open 30 minutes earlier

Hosted by BlackDaemon82 / prototypetom (PSN)

--> SUBMIT YOUR RACES HERE <--

WTC is GCCC's premium pure racing track event, running weekly on Saturday.
The pre-lobby will open at 7pm and the playlist lobby at 7.25pm for a 7.30 start.

WTC CREATOR CHAMPIONSHIP:

Each week will feature a playlist of great pure racing tracks and circuits by GCCC and affiliate creators.
After each qualifying round, the hosts will review the tracks and score the races on a number of technical criteria.
After 3 rounds of qualifiers, the 9 highest scoring races will be put into a semi-final.
The semi-finals will be voted on by the participants, and the top 3 jobs go through to the season grand final (week 13), which again is a public vote. (see season schedule below)

WTC DRIVER CHAMPIONSHIP:

We also have a Driver's Championship for competitive drivers.
Over the first 12 weeks of the season (see schedule below) we will record the top scoring 5 drivers from the playlist.
Drivers will score points based on their position (5pt-1pt).
The season's top 10 and winner will be announced in the Creator championship Finale thread prior to the final event.
These positions will be based on the total score from a driver's best 6 results during the season.
(This is to allow for drivers missing weeks or connection problems, or general playlist problems - a bad week isn't a disaster)

The Season Final will be a chance to break any tied positions between drivers (if there are any) with head-to-head duels - the higher placed finish between the tied racers on the night holds the position.
But the final week is mostly about defending/winning lap times on sponsored races and the Creator Competition.

Only GCCC and affiliate drivers will have their times recorded.*

SPONSORED RACES:

Creators are invited to volunteer their tracks to be "Sponsored Races".
What this means is that they are prepared to add the fastest WTC lap time permanently to their race description
(separate from any other best laps/world records etc).
This only happens in the Semi-finals (and Season Final if the Semi-final time is beaten)

SCHEDULE:

Week 1: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 2: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 3: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 4: Semi's: 9 winning tracks (3 vote poll)

Week 5: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 6: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 7: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 8: Semi's: 9 winning tracks (3 vote poll)

Week 9: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 10: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 11: Qualifiers: 7 new tracks + 1 classic track
Week 12: Semi's: 9 winning tracks (3 vote poll)

Week 13: Season Final: 9 winning tracks (3 vote poll)

NOTES:

• Races will be run in a variety of classes, usually defined by the creator. If vehicles are very restricted, the host MAY run the race with customs off.
• Scoring criteria is in the race submission thread and posted with the scores each week for the creator's reference.
• Classic tracks are chosen from Racewars event winners approx 2 years ago that fit current criteria (no boosts, jumps or race effecting lamppost issues)
• Due to the Driver's Championship, all scoring races will be run with no-contact. If we run contact on ovals, these will be played last in the playlist and score totals taken from the positions before this race.
• Whenever possible, Playlists (in these topics) will be posted by Friday night if drivers want to practice any tracks.
• If you can please please please stream this event, it's great for the event (and recording results if the host's streams go down!)
• * We may team up with other friendly crews as well as full affiliates in the future. For inclusion in the Driver's Championship, you have to be a member of an eligible crew, but you don't need the tags on if your SC is viewable.

Rules: GCCC Rules and Etiquette

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WTC DRIVER CHAMPIONSHIP EVENT RESULTS/TOP 5:

1. BlackDaemon82
2. Druw0630
3. prototypetom
4. leyendadementes (SARX)
5. Yetounet

Host BlackDaemon82 / prototypetom

yetounet
drrockso26
druw0630
Mafia_Gamer-070
leyendadementes (SARX)

hodowithashotgun
Dariusking17
Amh435
Xelor97
lokkuraas
crismagicneu5

Thank you for attending!

Playlist

1) Josiah Speedway by coachwargo Coupe 6 laps
2) Costa De Amalfi by drrockso26 Classic restricted, 3 laps
3) P-GP: Green Hills Stage1 by prototypetom Super 6 laps (***Sponsored***)
4) (JCB) F*cking Diabolical by jcbvortex Muscle 6 laps
5) #POL Golfers Paradise by philanthropol Compact 8 laps
6) Obsession by GuzTurbels Sedan 4 laps
7) Epsilon GT Circuit by RyuujinJakka Sport 5 laps

Bonus Race:
8) Fastlove by AJ Open Wheel 4 laps

HOST STREAM

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prototypetom
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World Track Championship, Racewars S42: W07 Sat. 6th August Aug 11, 2022 11:41:12 GMT coachwargo, BlackDaemon82, and 1 more like this

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Review and scores for week 7.

1) Josiah Speedway by coachwargo
19/20 (1,2,3,2,3, 3,1,1,2,1)
I think we should start every week with a nice flat track like this to warm up - god knows I need it sometimes. The Routes good but obviously quite basic.... of course that doesn't stop it being a fun race - it's a good canvas for the driver's skills. That said, the lack of distraction does leave the build rather exposed to scrutiny - I've taken 2 misc points to balance the score against more invested building efforts.

2) Costa De Amalfi by drrockso26
19/20 (3,0,3,1,3, 2,1,1,2,3)
Oooooooldschool! Epic tour of the countryside - some of the most challenging bits of road on the map too, it makes for an engaging race. Propping is very sparse and what is here is a little unusual! Although it's fun to just leave these wild roads as they are, some sections could have been managed a little more considerately for racing. As-found has a lot of merits, but the scoring in a creator event is going to reflect the modest amount of the creator's own design.

3) P-GP: Green Hills Stage1 by prototypetom
26/30 (3,3,2,2,2, 2,3,3,3,3)
Solid - but a few little compromises here and there (including those damn signs that the fixture remover fails to register). I've missed smoothing a transition, there are a bunch of metal barriers in a very fast section that might snag, and I've left the containment a little short too (although that's something I'd probably leave for the fun of it even if we had 250 props)

4) (JCB) F*cking Diabolical by jcbvortex
27/30 (3,2,3,2,3, 3,3,3,2,3)
Wonderful track, beautiful prop craft and flow. A good shout for the best of the night. That said, I think it does rely on checkpoints too much on some unnecessarily fiddly track sections - I found I wasn't quite racing the track. I was trying to race what I could get away with because the lack of propping on corners was encouraging me to just push the limits of the checkpoints rather than considering the track itself.

5) #POL Golfers Paradise by philanthropol
27/30 (3,3,3,2,3, 3,3,2,2,3)
The famous golf track at last. Quite the achievement in the space it's built in. I won't waste anyone's time blowing sunshine up Phil's inner tubes - clearly this is awesome, everyone can see that. There are a few danger areas that could have been more contained (as much I like a race with some jeopardy, technical scoring is technical) and while effort has clearly been made to support the track, The bridges are still a bit wafery to my eye in a couple of spots.

6) Obsession by GuzTurbels
23/30 (2,3,3,2,0, 3,2,2,3,3)
Surprisingly fresh feeling route given the streets this takes in, possibly the most remarkable thing here (only spoiled slightly by the island after a blind left-hand turn and a couple of slightly misleading walls elsewhere). The race is mostly very well-built. Securing all lampposts was a sacrifice for the route, but it's worth it for the style of race. Lovely street racing.

7) Epsilon GT Circuit by RyuujinJakka
25/30 (2,3,3,3,1 3,2,2,3,3)
Interesting contrast to the last race - another street race, but shorter and enough props to manage far more of the lampposts, etc. (But not all). Really smooth flow but a couple of sharper corners to learn and remember. Very good. The only bit I didn't like is the blind apex outside the car showroom, I think that should be propped so you can see the apex prop on your first approach.

SPOILER: Click to show

Scoring:
If a criteria description is fully satisfied, a race keeps 3 points.
If a criterion has modestly noticeable/risky technical errors, or is good but somewhat unremarkable, it loses 1 point.
If a criterion is obviously lacking in some way, or has clearly impactful errors/risks, it loses 2 points.
If a criterion is largely failed or ignored, it loses 3 points.

Criteria:
1. Route. A creative, clear and engaging flow. Good transitions; challenging but fun to drive; no blind surprises or awkward bottlenecks.
2. Checkpoints. Clear and efficient use of checkpoints - All communicative, no surplus and not missing any in important places.
(rough reduction guide for surplus/missing/problem checkpoints: 1/2 = 1pt, 3/4/6 = 2pt, 5+ = 3pt)
3. Smooth. Smoothly propped track transitions and well-managed (problematic) undulations in streets/roads - if required.
4. Containment. Apexes and walls are in place on racing lines when needed to ease higher risks. No high risk solid objects within the track lines/close to racing line.
5. Streetjunk. ALL lampposts and signs removed/covered from inside track or within falling distance of track. All Creator added dynamic props have no potential negative impact on race.
(rough reduction guide for offending objects: 1/2 = 1pt, 3/4/6 = 2pt, 5+ = 3pt)
6. Snags. Appropriate low-snag props are used in all key places. World objects with bad hitboxes covered/protected.
7. Visual design. Great all-track races have a distinctive visual architecture or quality to them - a theme and/or simply great looking. Street tracks are transformed to feel new or just look great.
8. Prop-care. All the propping has been applied with a high level of care and detail - no-snaplines, track lines/rumble strips line up well, no odd gaps or joins.
9. Prop-visual. Unsightly building work under and around racing surfaces is well covered, and tracks look like they have been built with some consideration of IRL physics - no unsupported strips of thin track magically floating without structure.
10. General. Extra points that might be deducted for unusually egregious problems with any previous criteria or any other problems/shortcomings not covered by other criteria - Or overly simplistic creation that technically sidesteps criteria rather than mastering it. (*not limited to -3 points)

Final note: The criteria are designed to be as technical and objective as reasonably possible. We score subtractively, so we can point directly to observable/comparable shortcomings. What we're trying to do is put the technically robust races through to the semi-finals - not the ones we "like" best. FWIW, in principle I personally support creators sometimes compromising a bit on technical aspects if necessary for good creative reasons (I do!) - but this is a technical round.

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druw0630
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World Track Championship, Racewars S42: W07 Sat. 6th August Aug 11, 2022 20:07:04 GMT via mobile BlackDaemon82 and prototypetom like this

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Post by druw0630 on Aug 11, 2022 20:07:04 GMT

Hello,

Nice of you to grade the tracks, i do agree with you on most but street tracks are very difficult to remove all the objects. To give 0 points for that i think is unfair too. I see that most tracks are 100 percent built with tracks (hopefully i make myself clear) so maybe you should consider grading the amount of kerb boost each one has. Not a fan of it but i see others eating them up all race so if you want to compete you have to do it as well. Just a thought. Cheers

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World Track Championship, Racewars S42: W07 Sat. 6th August Aug 12, 2022 14:28:42 GMT coachwargo, BlackDaemon82, and 1 more like this

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Post by prototypetom on Aug 12, 2022 14:28:42 GMT

Aug 11, 2022 20:07:04 GMT druw0630 said:

Hi Druw.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to answer you here, but I'm just explaining my view, I respect you might still see it differently.

Yes, it feels a bit tough sometimes. But creating in GTA is all about compromises and creative choices - I know when I leave a dangerous fall in one of my tracks it's going to cost me points, but it's a choice, I just try to be fastidious about everything else. Hitting objects on the track that other people have knocked over - it absolutely makes an experience worse, and the creator is responsible for the choice to include that risk - and I completely respect that choice whether It's for length of the circuit, or realism, or whatever the creator is inspired to do. But it's a competition, and we can't pretend compromises aren't comparable. If we didn't have this criteria, how would we credit the creator who makes a street circuit and DOES make the effort or the choices to remove the risks to racer performance - that is the superior service to racers (in a GP context). In isolation, it might seem like a lot of points, but it's part of a holistic system...

We have some criteria that are very easy to maximize in all-prop tracks (eg. 5. streetjunk) and some that are very easy to maximize in street circuits (eg. 9. prop-visual). And some others are a bit different depending on style of build.

Kerb boosting is something I thought about including, but it's a very subjective matter that I don't want to judging people on their racing practices. Instead, I've just kept the criteria to mostly things I can quantify objectively, so creators can understand the system, whether they're making a street or a track circuit.

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