new event: Gran Turismo Classic Cup

i think the best options would be: 5pm bst every other sunday before RW or 6pm bst every other friday before deathstroke/purge.
it doesnt really matter to me which of these 2, whatever fits in the calender/schedule best. 22.30 bst is too late for me to start. im +1 gmt. (spain)

i was thinking of making a 'season'kalendar, so each race and when it is, will be known before the season starts, which solves the free practice..
for qualification the idea is to run a 3/4laps non-contact race just before the main-race, with a screenshot the grid-positions can be made out for the main race. (best laptime=pole etc.)

tbh i didn't think about which crew(s) the creators are in, there's gccc, xdbx, rmob, and some 'free-agents/other crew' creations in the list. it would take a significant chunk out of the list if we were only to select gccc creations.. i would in that case recommend to inv. xdbx & rmob crews, especially when there are to be 'follow-up' seasons to come (when its a succes) i can have a chat with them and see if they're up for it?

perhaps it would be best if we only do 1race every time, but with more laps +/-1hr.?

yeah, it should def.be a sign up event, but it would be nice to make 'race-ing teams of 2/3ppl per team, depending on how many ppl signing up/wanting to participate. so at the end of the season there can be a driver crowned champion and also a team/constructors champion.

im a complete noob when it comes to websites though and def. need help with that, that would be much appreciated.
also i dont have a microphone, this could making ppl line up on startinggrid etc. more complicated than need be.

Sounds like a good event, but isn't this basically Team Endurance, minus the Team aspect? If so then it seems more logical to me to speak to jcast39 and maybe making it an alternating event, TE one week, Solo Endurance the next. Best of both worlds

it could indeed grow out to become something big, where crews have their teams(drivers) and officials(streamers) present.. that would be awesome in many different ways (competitive wise/ co-operative wise/creative wise) to see multiple crews battle it out on track, whilst having fun together. it would become the 'lotus'flower of gtao, lol

I like the idea of inviting other crews to share creations across crews. RRR1 and NODO are both already affiliated and keen clean contact racers. XDBX have already been approved as an affiliate but I never got round to contacting them (partly as we didn't really have an event to share with them while also allowing them to submit jobs as most late events are oversubscribed) so yes to them 4 (no to RMOB). Before contacting them I think we need to agree on the format & rules. 

As it'll only be bi-weekly I think (at least) 2 tracks would be better taking 45 mins-ish (or 3/4 taking nearer 30). You already have a ton and, hopefully, this will inspire more creators to create this kind of thing. The qualification idea seems good but I don't think it's feasible to look through a list of (potentially) 30 lap times ordering everyone into their places; a top 3-5 should suffice in making things fair & competitive without slowing the event down (or adding stress of looking through long lists trying to order names, send messages etc. while everyone's waiting). 

As far as racing teams go I'm not convinced they'll work that great in GCCC as we're casual gamers and effectively tying yourself to attend the event every time. Maybe with some "friendly" maths they could work though (like only individuals top 5 out of 6 scores count, all 3 teams drivers allowed to race but only the top 2 finishers points count in the constructor's table). Whenever point scoring has been used in RW it turned into a small competition between those who could attend every week. I'd highly recommend on making it as open and casual as possible.

Now "Gentleman's racing"  I think it needs laying out properly (or just use NODO's guidelines minus the track boundaries for kerb boosting). What's been a grey area in the past is what happens if anyone breaks the rules also (and that will only be worse inviting other crews). Something like:
is probably best with all incidents reported needing a recording. I don't think it needs to turn into F1 with countless stewards enquiries just a system to prevent abusers. 

Phew. Excited to see something like this.

i will not participate if shitty dirty driving NODO joins,(same for YEAH,TEAM,PERF,etc. they're not racers! they tryhards, kids who shout out loud that they are racers, i have never ever had an enjoyable race with them. they know only curbboosting/divebombing and over 1000 more different pitmanouvres
on top of that, a lot of them use modded controllers, just because they so tryhard.. they the ppl i do not want/like to race with.

crews like RRR1/2, XDBX, RMOB they race true, they have character.. they should join imho.

also, may i ask why veto rmob?, they non-curbboosting clean racers

-As it'll only be bi-weekly I think (at least) 2 tracks would be better taking 45 mins-ish (or 3/4 taking nearer 30). You already have a ton and, hopefully, this will inspire more creators to create this kind of thing. The qualification idea seems good but I don't think it's feasible to look through a list of (potentially) 30 lap times ordering everyone into their places; a top 3-5 should suffice in making things fair & competitive without slowing the event down (or adding stress of looking through long lists trying to order names, send messages etc. while everyone's waiting).

+i personally think 1track per event would be best, because the kind of ppl we want are those who prepare (a bit) practice their lines, become comfortable with a track, etc. that is also why the qualification is nice, some ppl always start on the front/last row because the -servers, its a reason to practice and be prepared/comfortable for a race. rearanging the grid can be done in less than 5min. it takes 1person with mic to call of all the drivers to their respective positions.
also some tracks are better suited to faster/slower cars, so it makes sense that since every season only1car will be used (i chose the turismo c. because everyone haves one) toselect tracks accordingly and it leaves tracks foor the next season. quality irl tracks are really hard to make and there arent many good ones.

-As far as racing teams go I'm not convinced they'll work that great in GCCC as we're casual gamers and effectively tying yourself to attend the event every time. Maybe with some "friendly" maths they could work though (like only individuals top 5 out of 6 scores count, all 3 teams drivers allowed to race but only the top 2 finishers points count in the constructor's table). Whenever point scoring has been used in RW it turned into a small competition between those who could attend every week. I'd highly recommend on making it as open and casual as possible.

+the teams are something i like because it gives a change to drivers like me, who are not the fastest, but reasonably consistent the color aspect also plays a role in this.. with some colors i just lose my focus and others keep my focused much better. if the top ten drivers scores points +1extra point for pole and 1for fastest racelap. the rest who finshes scores 1point, up to 2ppl per team (highest2) scoring points for their team. imo it should be a friendly'competition' over the season, with the emphasis on friendly rather than competition. the more open it is though the more ppl will join halfway, which isnt right imo, they can anticipate the next season. its like joining a crew vs crew playlist halfway, its disturbingthe original participants, it doesnt happen irl also. maybe if 1driver retires halfway the season a new driver can take over their place? but overal it would benefit the participants if the 'line-up' is known before the season starts, its more fair.


-Now "Gentleman's racing" I think it needs laying out properly (or just use NODO's guidelines minus the track boundaries for kerb boosting). What's been a grey area in the past is what happens if anyone breaks the rules also (and that will only be worse inviting other crews). Something like:
(Minor) offence 1 = warning
(Minor) offence 2 = 30 second penalty (if DNF drop 1 place)
(Minor) offence 3 / all major offences e.g. driving backwards, repeatedly causing issues = DQ'd from race
Everything after = Banned from event
is probably best with all incidents reported needing a recording. I don't think it needs to turn into F1 with countless stewards enquiries just a system to prevent abusers.

+nodo's guidelines are a bit for shallow ppl imo, its more the character of ppl which makes them suitable for contactracing in a game like gtao, the nodo guidelines state the obvious, which comes natural for the ppl we want to participate. as far as curbboosting, the curbs are often part of the racingline/apex in corners, irl racers also hit the curbs, on them with a wheel or 2 in a corner is ok, i always let go of R2 when my wheels go 'over' them instead of 'on' ever so slightly to nullify the suspension-boost. the bad part is on the straits, weaving up and down the curb to gain more 'boost', which is/should be 'no-go', 'on' is ok, but not 'over' and no 'weaving' on and off them. doing this should be DQ from the race. every participant should save their videofootage, 30min max. can be recorded, so 1or2 pitstops would be in place for racers to quikly save and reactivate the recording. when something happens it can be send to the 'official(s)' who will look in to it and apply the penalty or not, depending on the footage from all parties involved. the main badboy is 'lagg', when i was still living in laos i was incredibly laggy, teleporting and almost everyone else was teleporting through my screen also,  i refrained myself from most contactraces then,  because the experience sucked. if someone is continually lagging they will have to keep the honors to their own, and allow the rest of the participants to continue without them imo.
what meant by an 'minor offense'? i dont know of any, if ppl crash, which will happen sometimes, they (should) do the right thing, which nullifies the offense. 
any other offenses or ppl not behaving like a sir deserve the death-penalty 'off with their heads' and will be DQ'ed and banned from ever participating again. here also lagg(if there is/can be) is the problem. the best thing is when its lagg and therefore dont stop after crashing accidentally to find out after the race through video-footage(or mic communication), and when its intentfully the 'pacecar' comes drivin out, everyone takes the opportunity for a pitstop and whoopwhoop the offender will be kicked out and after the pacecar goes back in the race continues. i guess its overall important to be mindfull in who can and who can not participate. and also gccc might consist of most casual gamers, but im pretty sure that there are quite some ppl who would enjoy something which is a challenge. and remember children: winning the race doesnt make u a winner, improving your own on the other hand..


phew. im also excited to see something like this happen

from creator-perspective its the most difficult thing to create i believe. and being that about 3quarters of the tracks where made by non-gccc members, i do see a big challenge for the creators here..

also you say 'we' are not the racers that i suggest, obviously u speak for ppl u know here, i  know ppl here who would like something like this, because of high standards, because of the absense of those who dont have any standards when it comes to racing.

the ppl u invited to my playlist the other day were indeed of no-standards, so much that i quit my own playlist, same happend the day before with atheistsw 's playlist, it became undoable on contact because of all those randoms who are shouting that they are 'racers' but only crash ppl, dont give back position or wait, and practice more pitmanouvres and driving beside the track/boosting than they were actually racing.. this event should therefore be of 'high'standards to keep rabble like that out imho.

I really like tge sound of this event and I would say it's worth having ago. However my main concern is just the style which all the tracks are at. It would just be one big curb hunting race which takes away the reality. Unless everyone is racing like RRR1 (Red Rum Racing) or APEX (Apex Stalkers) where curb boosting is prohibitive, the event will just be cars on the rumble strips going left and right to grab the curbs.

sad to hear that the opinions of commisioners are more important (again) than having an event for that group of ppl who play fair&mature and are 'forgotten about' in all gccc events.. look at worc-event with all the vehicle restrictions- ppl take the piss with the rules and where are the commisioners? too busy doing politics, having their opinions.. instead of 'enforcing the rules, yet every time a seed is planted, they kill it before it grows.. 
its just a bunch of ego's atm more busy hiding behind the 'rules' and not enforcing them where it comes to gameplay, therewith encouraging the gccc-meek to be/become a bunch of selfish ego's also..  for example; ive always sayd that it doesnt really matter what car, i picked turismo, because at that time everyone(all ppl who would participate) did have turismo, because it was the only competitive car in its class. im perfectly happy with other classes, as long as everyone has the same car. the so-called 'strictness' was there to allow for ppl to spawn a car for those not in possession of the said vehicle.. how politrics blinds ppl and makes them interpretate things in a narrow-sighted/minded view..   
check out here how easy and little timeconsuming it can be to organize a starting grid for example: note most ppl didnt even know each other in this event, and yet it was a night of clean fun-racing without crazy politics. if a group of ppl who dont even know each other are able to do this, than imho an established crew like gccc should def. be capable and able to do something like this.. 

its not always about how much jobs are showcased and by who, we all play this game to have a fun time together..  but thats indeed impossible when ppl arent willing to put their ego's aside