Sending a request to R*, opinions needed
Oct 7, 2016 21:50:22 GMT
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Post by skirakzalus on Oct 7, 2016 21:50:22 GMT
Since the bikers DLC launched the racing community (a lot from NoDo, me certainly included) really hasn't been happy with the GTA mode not being available for stunt races anymore. This limits the usability of a lot of cool creations, mostly the gp-style racetracks I assume.
NoDo has launched their own campaign to make aware of this and why it is a big problem. While I am glad they try that and hope it succeeds, I am a bit sceptical about this being a bug. I think it has been a deliberate decision which makes me wonder, if would go back on it, given that they didn't remove the public session requirement from the CEO work though many people were asking/demanding it.
The reasons why I believe this was a deliberate change are for one the patchnotes:
Fixed an issue that caused the GTA and Rally Race option to not be present for all eligible Race types (Land, Sea, Air) in the Race Creator.
Stunt races aren't listed here and the whole thing about "elegible Race types" seems pretty specific. In my opinion this is their way of saying "We don't think stunt races work well with GTA mode" (apart from it being pretty buggy before it was removed).
Another thing is that one of the NoDo members recieved this answer. Looks like they know about it and "removed" points towards it not being an accident.
But enough of that, now to the point. I think that there might be a better solution for this, that also helps more people and maybe has a bigger chance to succeed than the other request (though that's still certainly worth supporting, what I'm suggesting here doesn't contradict the other thing), especially if wants the GTA thing to be that way.
What want to suggest to is to give every kind of creator the 150 prop limit (+20 dynamic and 60 weapons), access to all the stunting props and the advanced placement options. This would also solve the problem with GTA mode in stunts because people could just use the land race editor instead (and hopefully reconvert already existing jobs, it's a better fit anyways).
So what I want to send them is something like this:
"With the recent Cunning Stunts update the creator was expanded with a lot of cool new features, props and higher prop limits. This lead to some amazing creations from the community. But to this day it is only limited to the racing community, more specificly people that enjoy stunts. I hereby request unlocking these awesome new tools and props for every type of crator that's in the game, allowing all communities to enjoy the possibilites that come with it. This would allow the creative minds to build things on a completly new level and result in more varied content for most of GTA's communities. Be it air races that have people flying through burining rings, custom battlefields for deathmatches and LTS', or even selfmade buildings for captures and such.
In the case of landraces removing the automatic conversion would allow people to build amazing looking serious racing circuits that can rely on the GTA mode and are in a fitting category. For that purpose it would be nice to have a reconversion option for jobs that already have been made, so the creators can set their jobs to the right type."
And this is where I could use some help, if there are any suggestions for wording or better examples (short ones prefered) for what you would do with the stuff, please let me know. It can only raise the probability of this succeeding.
Just posted it on the support forum, upvoting would be much appreciated.
NoDo has launched their own campaign to make aware of this and why it is a big problem. While I am glad they try that and hope it succeeds, I am a bit sceptical about this being a bug. I think it has been a deliberate decision which makes me wonder, if would go back on it, given that they didn't remove the public session requirement from the CEO work though many people were asking/demanding it.
The reasons why I believe this was a deliberate change are for one the patchnotes:
Fixed an issue that caused the GTA and Rally Race option to not be present for all eligible Race types (Land, Sea, Air) in the Race Creator.
Stunt races aren't listed here and the whole thing about "elegible Race types" seems pretty specific. In my opinion this is their way of saying "We don't think stunt races work well with GTA mode" (apart from it being pretty buggy before it was removed).
Another thing is that one of the NoDo members recieved this answer. Looks like they know about it and "removed" points towards it not being an accident.
But enough of that, now to the point. I think that there might be a better solution for this, that also helps more people and maybe has a bigger chance to succeed than the other request (though that's still certainly worth supporting, what I'm suggesting here doesn't contradict the other thing), especially if wants the GTA thing to be that way.
What want to suggest to is to give every kind of creator the 150 prop limit (+20 dynamic and 60 weapons), access to all the stunting props and the advanced placement options. This would also solve the problem with GTA mode in stunts because people could just use the land race editor instead (and hopefully reconvert already existing jobs, it's a better fit anyways).
So what I want to send them is something like this:
"With the recent Cunning Stunts update the creator was expanded with a lot of cool new features, props and higher prop limits. This lead to some amazing creations from the community. But to this day it is only limited to the racing community, more specificly people that enjoy stunts. I hereby request unlocking these awesome new tools and props for every type of crator that's in the game, allowing all communities to enjoy the possibilites that come with it. This would allow the creative minds to build things on a completly new level and result in more varied content for most of GTA's communities. Be it air races that have people flying through burining rings, custom battlefields for deathmatches and LTS', or even selfmade buildings for captures and such.
In the case of landraces removing the automatic conversion would allow people to build amazing looking serious racing circuits that can rely on the GTA mode and are in a fitting category. For that purpose it would be nice to have a reconversion option for jobs that already have been made, so the creators can set their jobs to the right type."
And this is where I could use some help, if there are any suggestions for wording or better examples (short ones prefered) for what you would do with the stuff, please let me know. It can only raise the probability of this succeeding.
Just posted it on the support forum, upvoting would be much appreciated.
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